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Truth wrote on Mar 29, 2010 3:09 PM:

" I guess we need to return to the suggested topic of homosexuality or "homophobia" as some like to call it. I feel that Roy has done a great job of representing us here in the KRV. As always, when everyone who was, stayed in the closet and no one bothered them and/or harrassed/promoted them, I feel a need to return to those days and wake to find that subject again put to sleep and the world to continue to revolve on its axis. Roy was a tireless worker for us, let us be thankful for that. "




Editor wrote on Mar 28, 2010 12:17 PM:

" Because the religion-related comments of this thread are wandering off-topic, they have been moved to 'Around the Water Cooler' Forum, under the title, 'Christians and Sinners'. Please post further such comments there. "




John Perry SHN wrote on Mar 26, 2010 10:00 PM:

" Truth, read my post directed to you again.
In your rush to judgment you intimated I was a liberal. I'm not!
I believe you consider yourself a
Christian and I would never attempt to tell you otherwise.
I merely pointed out that your very judgmental and do a disservice to the Christian Community with your fire and brimstone zealotry.
I have always thought of Christians as those who were kind, considerate,non judgmental and those who spread Gods Word with respect and humility.
Apparently my quotes meant nothing to you. "




Ann to Ken wrote on Mar 26, 2010 5:45 PM:

" Ken, this is one of the first posts that helps me respect you. Gays may disagree with the reference to "lifestyle" but I sometimes use that word in error. Please, thank you for a reasonable post and please do not go over the top with the Christ, God, religious thing in the future as you have previously. It really turns folks off, even me, and I would rather have a discussion without "over the top" religious tones. Thanks for your consideration in this regard. "




Ken wrote on Mar 26, 2010 6:48 AM:

" Ann- Our government was set up to keep the state OUT of the church. Not the other way around. This country was founded on spiritual principles and did not want the government deciding how to worship as in England. As far as Roy is concerned, regardless of his sexual preference, it had to have taken some real fortitude to represent the people even though it contradicted his own preference. What does that say about his integrity? Obviously he made some mistakes. I don't agree with his lifestyle, but as a person, I think he has a good heart. "




Truth wrote on Mar 26, 2010 12:54 AM:

" John Perry, you need to stop listening to these liberals on this blog. You do not know who you are addressing when you tell me I am not a Christian. Some day these people will have to stand before God, I hope I am there to pray for them. My heart says educate the ones who are not walking the road to Christ, that I am doing; am I my brothers keeper---yes, I am. "




Ann wrote on Mar 24, 2010 9:38 PM:

" Jeff, thank you. You are very astute and your comments are right on the mark in my book. Take care Dude. "




Jeff wrote on Mar 24, 2010 10:36 AM:

" PS Ann has also been very kind and reasonable in these blogs. "truth","wise counselor" "area republican""reality" are all personalities made up by you Barbara.Why don't you try love instead of fear, kindness instead of being mean. truth instead of lies, using your real name instead of all these made up personalities? "




Jeff wrote on Mar 24, 2010 10:32 AM:

" Barbara you say you don't hate, yet you illude to bad things that happened to Gays in WW11,those "different or odd",like you think that should happen again, abhoring a different lifestyle, telling people to go back in the closet, calling Celia a liar(like you can tell if she's in Las Vegas or not) and a phoney baloney, weirdows,"kool aid" comments, the list goes on. You claim to know who I am yet I highly doubt that. And John is right in that you do a diservice to Christians.You need more than prayer. "




Jeff wrote on Mar 24, 2010 8:22 AM:

" Barbara thinks she knows who/what I am. Do tell. Curious minds want to know. um just to protect the innocent, KRV is my second home, has been for several years.It would be good if Barbara got out more into the real world, where Gays mingle with secure straights and the sky has not fallen. Al, Celia keep up the good work. Remember, I read this blog long before I commented. I think you do get people to think. "




Truth wrote on Mar 23, 2010 11:54 PM:

" Anne: All the words about hate and loathing are your words, I have never said I hate anyone. You and your co-hearts keep saying that, while none of my posts read that way. It is all in your minds. You all are products of the Obama Progressive Kool-ade." Like I said, "Here's a quarter," call someone who cares about your agenda, I don't! "




John Perry SHN wrote on Mar 23, 2010 11:19 PM:

" Have you never done anything wrong or sinned?
Who said, "Let him without sin cast the first stone"? I think it was your Boss. I think He also said, "Judge not lest you be judged".
I may be wrong in the exact wording of my quotes Truth, it's been a while since I've been to Church but you get the idea.
Just like overly strident Gay activists do a disservice to the Gay community you do a disservice to the Christian community. "




Ann wrote on Mar 23, 2010 8:42 PM:

" Truth, I have tried lately to be low-key when it comes to this blog. It is a time-eater and with you, very frustrating. However, you have demonstrated rare form here. I cannot believe you can look yourself in the mirror after reading what you have posted. You are so unyielding in your hatred and bigotry. Al Steuart does not deserve that treatment and neither does Celia. The others you have criticized hatefully do not deserve it either. Why are you that way? Why do you loathe so many people? "




Truth wrote on Mar 23, 2010 4:51 PM:

" Jeff: You can keep your "vote" also, as if your vote counts; it will have about as much clout as the Healthcare Reform bill the Progressivs just passed, after the Supreme Court gets finished telling them them they violated the Constitution. Also, here's another clue to me, "here's a quarter, call someone who cares!" "




Truth wrote on Mar 23, 2010 4:47 PM:

" Jeff: No further explanation is needed for me. I now know what/who you are. End of story. "




Jeff wrote on Mar 23, 2010 8:54 AM:

" Barbara. This is a public blog anyone can comment. I have read this blog since the beginning through the elections and with your many names. I used to just read now I comment. I have grown to understand and respect Al, Celia and their desire for equality. (and their humor) they got me to think and that's good. You use many names other than your real one. They use their real names. You spout hate. They speak reason. Yes I side with them and equality. "




Truth wrote on Mar 23, 2010 12:33 AM:

" Jeff, who died and made you moderator of this blog? You have not been on here long enough to understand the way it used to be before the "slammers" and haters came on here, they think everyone has to "mimac" their thoughts and progressive ideas or they start spewing their hatred....Progressives are the haters not the ones who have been here for a long time and have blogged since this started! Recently those people have started acting somewhat civil in their writing, then they stab people in the back whenever anyone gives a rational comment! They are the weirdos! "




Jeff wrote on Mar 22, 2010 5:41 PM:

" Barbara/"truth". I read all these post as well as other blogs and I vote that you are the hateful,insecure condemning one.Celia is just having fun mirroring back to you what you put out. And you just keep on spewing it out. Of course a comedian is going to have a field day with that.

John. Mixed results. You seem kind and caring for your niece then go after Al and Celia pretty inappropriatly hard. All they want is fairness and equality. Why is that so hard to get? "




celia wrote on Mar 22, 2010 2:47 PM:

" This is fun! Hey "truth" ever heard of an "iphone"? You can surf the web and email from it. Handy little thing to keep around to keep up with that illusive "Gay agenda" I've got going.Really you call me a liar? Oh I'm so hurt as I value your opinion of me so very much. Guys relax! As I said some of my best friends are hetro and all I want is to be treated fairly.And maybe get some good comedy material... "




Truth wrote on Mar 22, 2010 12:28 PM:

" Celia: First of all, the last thing you would be doing if you were in Las Vegas is writing on your laptop on this blog! Stop lying! I think you are acting hateful to me and yes, I do agree with John Perry, that you are insecure about yourself, and so you strike out at those who have opposite opinions than yours. I too have gay friends, even if I am not, none of them act like you or push their agenda on anyone else like you do! Get a life! "




John Perry SHN wrote on Mar 22, 2010 9:57 AM:

" Celia, I have several gay friends.
They know I don't agree with many of their beliefs as they disagree with many of mine yet we're friends.
They don't attribute my beliefs to a "hateful agenda" or accuse me of being a "closet Het."
You and I disagree on some issues yet I have never judged you as a person as you have judged me and others.
It could be some gays feel exclusion from the hetero community not because they are gay but because of their overt judgementalism. "




celia wrote on Mar 22, 2010 9:53 AM:

" Aww "truth" how could I slam someone so charming? I simply directed people to read your post and come to their own conclusions. I'm having a wonderful time in Las Vegas. Wish you were here....kiss kiss wink wink.... "




Truth wrote on Mar 21, 2010 9:38 PM:

" Celia.....you are impossible to talk to, you want to be able to slam others but when they fight back, you claim innocence, you are phoney-baloney! "




Gail to Truth wrote on Mar 21, 2010 5:45 PM:

" I have not had any interactions with you and certainly have not been unkind nor called you names. I do not even know who you are. I simply asked a question that if you do not want to answer is A-OK with me, calm down, and later. "




John Perry SHN wrote on Mar 21, 2010 10:45 AM:

" Mac, Al,Phd wants us all to know how well he is educated.
Thoughtful, educated, well balanced individuals realize one or two disagreeable individuals do not make up the feelings and beliefs of the entire group.
Only an insecure person with a deep seated bias, prejudice ?, would continue to denigrate a group based on the actions of a few.
A person who is comfortable in his or her skin and way of life does not need windmills to tilt.
John Perry, SHN. "




celia wrote on Mar 21, 2010 7:15 AM:

" Awww "truth" back at ya! OK people, look at the post and see who uses condemning words.Do you think "truth" may have the edge on that?

Many of my best friends are hetro so I have nothing against secure hets. It's the insecure ones who push their hateful aganda that I'm out to help. Still praying for ya!

Many of us have known for a long time that the most vocal opponents of Gay rights are themselves closet cases. Better to be out, open and healthy than closeted and unhappy. "




Mac wrote on Mar 21, 2010 12:45 AM:

" John, can you not take a minute and see why Al might feel about Christians the way he does? Just look at the hateful stuff so-called Christian Truth continually spouts about gay people. Imagine being told constantly that what you are is wrong and disgusting and responsible for diseases and that you should go back in the closet and stop inflicting yourself on people. Imagine not being able to walk down the street with your spouse without getting dirty looks. When religion is an excuse for bigotry and treating people like crap then it should not be respected. "




Truth wrote on Mar 20, 2010 11:53 PM:

" Gail: Sorry that you have a need/obsession to write about me; I try to stick to the subject of the thread; you might try that. If you are intelligent enough to discuss anything without slamming someone that is! I call what you are "hateful" you keep calling me names; why? "




John Perry SHN wrote on Mar 20, 2010 11:40 PM:

" One other thing Al, PhD.
When Ashburn decided to drive drunk he gave up his right to be in Public Service.
My first accident investigation as a rookie Sheriffs Deputy was a drunk that rear ended a Semi Trailer.
His 3 year old baby's head was 1/2 way through the windshield.
Unfortunately I remember the kids. The decapitated little boy,the little girl the car rolled over and crushed, the 12 YO that lost an arm and bled to death.
Take your cheap shots at the Christians Al, PhD., but a drunk driver is nothing but a criminal. "




John Perry SHN wrote on Mar 20, 2010 11:18 PM:

" Al, PhD, who cares if your gay. Not me!
It's my opinion, formed from your letters, your a condescending egotist, who craves the limelight, and dislikes Christians.
I've never seen anyone protesting your atheism,yet you never miss a chance to take a cheap shot at Christians.
Why do you need to know what others do in their bedrooms? It's none of your business.
Like MOST, I'm comfortable in my sexuality and have no need to broadcast it. Aren't you comfortable?
You attitude is a disservice to the Gay community.
Ashburn is a victim if his drunkenness. "




Gail Korner wrote on Mar 20, 2010 9:13 PM:

" Truth, my question to you was about you, not the elected representative, based on the comments that you posted to a fellow KRV resident not the elected representative, BTW. "




Truth wrote on Mar 20, 2010 3:52 PM:

" Thank God Celia, I thought you were dead, it has been so long since we have had your condemning words here on this blog. Now you can again take up your one sided opinion of the gay race and ones who oppose it be damned! "




Truth wrote on Mar 20, 2010 1:11 PM:

" Gail Korner: This is not about me, it is about an elected representative of this area, and thank you Tea Party Person, it is wonderful to hear someone else here remembers what it is to be honest, loyal, and to have morals and values in today's world or "anything goes!" Praise God, HE will prevail! "




celia wrote on Mar 20, 2010 8:41 AM:

" Hello. I'm back...Wow! TMI on the whole attraction to male animal thing...really "truth" can't you keep private sexual weirdness private? I really don't want to hear what you and your "male animal" husband do in the privacy of your own bedroom...or wherever...

Roy is an example of a common theme among self loathing closet cases, they almost always speak against homosexuality. Those who protest the most are screaming to the world that they are insecure. I long for a world where Roy and other Gay people have no fear of coming out and being who they are. "




Good Senator wrote on Mar 20, 2010 1:30 AM:

" I don't care what the man's sexual orientation is. He voted the way that the valley wanted him to vote. "




Truth wrote on Mar 19, 2010 11:50 PM:

" Craig: Thanks for your prayers, I never refuse prayers, no matter who does it!
Yes, my husband loves me to describe him as a "male animal".....we have a normal male-female relationship-probably most of the bloggers here don't understand what that is. I pray for them also, their souls are in need of that! "




Gail Korner wrote on Mar 19, 2010 9:38 PM:

" Truth, I wonder if you could answer a question for me. How would you treat a niece, nephew, grandchild or even a daughter or son if they announced they were Gay? Considering that individual had been a part of your loving family for decades? "




Tea Party Person wrote on Mar 19, 2010 8:13 PM:

" Folks,
An elected official lied to us for years. What does it matter what he lied about? Lie to me once and what can I believe thereafter?
Secondly, our elected rep will now have CB on his resume for ten years. It means he has a criminal background.
Many state workers,virtually all cops, teacher aids, and others have a specific clause in their contracts that they lose their jobs with a DUI.
He fired up a 2500 lb gun (A taxpayer state vehicle) that we own, and put OUR lives at risk. Fire him. "




matt wrote on Mar 19, 2010 8:04 PM:

" The only thing I took to heart from Al Steuart's post was, "State Sen. Ashburn appears to be another victim of Christian values." What the heck Al!!! That's the only thing I found offensive. "




Greg wrote on Mar 19, 2010 3:44 PM:

" Oh there's just too much here to resist. So "truth" remember what used to happen to women in the not so distant history of this country? Not allowed to vote, could be legally beaten by their husbands, divorced for no reason and no senblence of work fairness. And what about what happens to women in some countries today? Female genital mutilation? Owneership? Honor killings? Yes society, past and present, is full of inequeties. Hitler killed the Gays alongside the Jews. What exactly ARE you suggesting? I suggest you take your meds, get therapy and stay in your closet. "




craig wrote on Mar 19, 2010 12:57 PM:

" Um "truth" I'm kind of curious about how your current husband feels about being called a "male animal"...and wow does that ever open up questions about you.
Mac is right you protest so much you do seem like a closet case...I'll pray for ya! "




Ann wrote on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM:

" Truth, My post was improperly worded. I did not mean that there was too much diversity in our great land as a negative. I meant that there was so much diversity that religion should be kept out of politics... meaning that we are a melting pot of diverse religions. My bad. Our democracy was set up to have a separation between Church and State.

Truth, hold on... I think Hitler is trying to contact you. Just a minute, while I route his call. "




Mac wrote on Mar 18, 2010 8:11 PM:

" Truth, what in the world does WWII have to do with today? Jews, gays, catholics and roma were persecuted by the Nazis. You seem to be advocating that mindset with your little warning.

As far as your "being attracted to the male animal". For one, ew. That's not an image I really need in my head. For two, it's normally people who get so freaked out about homosexuality who end up actually being attracted to the idea. You just seem to protest a bit too much, and people notice. "




Jeff wrote on Mar 18, 2010 8:08 PM:

" Oh Barbara you are attracted to a male animal? BTW I am comfortably hetrosexeal who is not threatened by gay people "




Truth wrote on Mar 18, 2010 5:29 PM:

" Jeff: I don't know who you think I am, but I have not nor ever will lean towards homosexuality. I have the normal feelings of a woman who is attracted to the male animal, obviously you are not one of those, because you "think like a gay person." My marriage is not the subject, the subject is that Roy hid the reason, and he hid it because he knows KRV is conservative. He knew he would not be supported as well if he "came out of the closet." So you see, he is smarter than you. "




Truth wrote on Mar 18, 2010 3:39 PM:

" Yes Ann, I agree with you, there is way more "divirsity" than we need in our wonderful land of America. What I find interesting, is that gays "can't or don't want to" remember what happened during WWII to gays and others who were "different or odd"---those were not treated well. This should warn most that there is not room for diversions "out of the norm" today with the government that is being formed into a "One World Order." I know there will be a time when you will all cry, "why didn't someone warn us?" Well, here it is. "




Ann wrote on Mar 17, 2010 12:42 PM:

" Aw, Truth, you never disappoint our expectations of you. Such bigotry and hatred and intolerance of others is sad and despicable. I would be ashamed.

Roy should be disciplined for the DUI and the other information should not have been mentioned in the media. Leaving a bar would have sufficed, not leaving a Gay Bar. Society is so cruel and religion should, indeed, be separated from politics. There is just too much diversity in our great land. "




craig wrote on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 AM:

" So how's that closet working for ya "truth"? Yes politics, religion and sexual preference do make a strange mixture as indicated by your own post. Keep religion out of politics and bedrooms and we will be much better off.

My heart goes out to Roy, not for being Gay but for living in such a crazy county that he felt the need to hide.He is an example of those who protest the most are always hiding something....truth? "




Melissa wrote on Mar 17, 2010 8:59 AM:

" Mr. Ashburn's sex life is a private matter. And, his orientation would not of swayed me one way or another in my voting for him.

KRV's sad little hateful "values" continue to disturb me. It's hateful, and Jesus was anything but.

And "Truth," you are the worse. May God forgive you for being such hateful. "




Jeff wrote on Mar 17, 2010 8:38 AM:

" Barbara. Yes many other newspapers have pictures and stories about married same sex couples. I wonder what other woman you have had feelings for that you are so afraid of? I wonder what the core issue is behind your multiple marriages? Your crazy obsession with the Gay is very telling. I hope and pray that you come to terms with who you are before you have a "Roy ashburn moment". You ask for it by your hateful post. "




Truth wrote on Mar 16, 2010 11:32 PM:

" Continued comment to Al Steuart: I do not think anyone at this newspaper is against anything you write; contrary to that, every time you write about your and others homosexuality, it is published immediately. I do not care to hear about your "leanings" nor do I care to see you published constantly; I do not dislike you, I abhor your lifestyle. Have you seen other newspapers print on the front page marriage of a homosexual couple, male or female? I would say it is a possibility you are given far more grace than anyone "straight." Hummmm? "




Truth wrote on Mar 16, 2010 11:07 PM:

" To Al Steuart, admitted and known homosexual: I would not have voted for Ashburn if I had known he was a homosexual; I would not have voted for anyone who lives a dangerous and deadly lifestyle. Yes, there are people like me that think differently, and all the publicity you seek for notarity as a homosexual will never make a difference. I would not vote for you either! You seem to want to mix politics with religion and sexual preference, when you try to meld the three together, you will get a strange mixture! Go back in the closet! "