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To Much Ado wrote on Jan 26, 2010 10:01 AM:

" Thats true, but it seems like an unsafe situation from the start. It sounds like the horse was by itself without other horses for protection. It was not shut away in a stable so dogs (or other predators like moutain lions or people) could not get to it. And too far from the house for the owners to hear her being attacked? The pitt owners are to blame and its good the dogs were killed but it could have been prevented. "




Much Ado wrote on Jan 23, 2010 9:33 PM:

" Cindy, I am sorry for your loss of Scarlet and her unborn foal.

I will not feed into the trail of pitbull disertation herein but will say that if there were no pitbulls loose, your mare and foal would be with you now.

Peace to you and God Bless. "




Local wrote on Jan 18, 2010 8:33 PM:

" Sorry my mistake. "




concerned wrote on Jan 18, 2010 5:33 PM:

" Why offend me im not ignorant,Im actually a pretty smart person,in fact you either understand my comment to much.Or not at all I understand "




concerned wrote on Jan 18, 2010 5:18 PM:

" Oh im sorry about my grammer and spelling,not much of a english major.Wow must have hit a nerve for the response,was it the drug dealer part?HMMM "




Caring wrote on Jan 18, 2010 5:17 PM:

" to Local, It was I who made the comment "your ignorance is glaring" -- not Concerned. "




Editor wrote on Jan 18, 2010 5:12 PM:

" To concerned.
No more caps. Please resubmit new comments.
Thanks. "




Local wrote on Jan 18, 2010 4:43 PM:

" Concerned, as to quote you, "your ignorance is glaring", in sentence form that is. "




Local wrote on Jan 18, 2010 4:40 PM:

" O, and nice run on sentence. "




CONCERNED wrote on Jan 18, 2010 3:13 PM:

" I BELIEVE IN HOLDING PEOPLE RESONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS,PEOPLE WHO CANT TAKE CARE OF THEIR ANIMALS,PEOPLE WHO ARE NON PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY WHO SELL DRUGS TO MAKE A LIVEING,PEOPLE WHO FIND IT EASIER TO POINT THE FINGER INSTEAD OF LOOKING IN THEIR OWN BACKYARDI I FIND IT ALL DISTURBING,SORRY FOR THE HORSE "




Local wrote on Jan 18, 2010 12:31 PM:

" Dog Bite-related Fatalities in the United States. Year Total Involving pit bull-type dogs
2005 27 15
2006 30 16
2007 34 16
2008 23 12
2009 30 14

"American pit bull constitute the majority of dogs used for illegal dog fighting in the United States.[12] In addition, law enforcement organizations report these dogs are used for other nefarious purposes, such as guarding illegal narcotics operations,[13]"
12. Humane Society 13. Swift, E.M. (1987-07-27). "The pit bull: friend and killer". Sports Illustrated 67 (4). //sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1066224/1/index.htm. Retrieved 2009-12-02). "




Mac wrote on Jan 18, 2010 7:50 AM:

" Trey, in reading a lot of the comments here, I doubt education will do any good. People don't want to be educated, they just "know what they know" regardless of facts. They don't really want to look deeper than headlines and "pitbulls are bad, kill them all". Once, everybody "knew" that the earth was flat, right? And saying otherwise was heresy. People are just dumb and reactionary and nothing will ever change that I guess. "




Local wrote on Jan 18, 2010 6:41 AM:

" I love all the end fighting but statistically speaking pit bulls are dangerous. Numbers don't lie, people do. "




Trey wrote on Jan 17, 2010 10:10 PM:

" I respect Mac's attempt to educate but wonder if it will do any good with the people here. I have owned a pitbull that was just a sweety and we had to put him down because of cancer. She was sixteen and a totally good dog, love ya Heidi, rest in peace, pumpkin. "




Pit Bull Reform wrote on Jan 17, 2010 3:19 PM:

" We need a STATEWIDE law to ban pitbulls and make spayng and castration mandatory. They problem will be gone in only 1 generation then. Having a pitbull should be a felony. "




Gail Korner wrote on Jan 15, 2010 3:42 PM:

" Cindy, I feel your sadness but more than that, I am outraged by the treatment you received when this most unfortunate tragedy to your beloved horse on Christmas no less happened. It is difficult for me to fathom that those who are "on call" to help in specific situations decline. God bless and heal you and your family from your loss. "




Insane Dog wrote on Jan 14, 2010 6:53 PM:

" It's often, nearly always, pit bulls that kill or maim. They need to be made ILLEGAL. All the existing ones need to be spayed or neutered. "




dlr wrote on Jan 14, 2010 11:04 AM:

" My life was saved by a pit bull.
I took my boyfriends pit to the store one night & I'm grateful he was there. I took the dog for the ride & left the window 1/4 open. As I left the store some local yocal decided to "help me to my car" and this freak wouldn't leave me alone. He followed me right to car. When the dog growled threw the slightly open window he asked if he'd bite. I said lets open the door and see. Thankfully he declined and left. I loved that dog!! "




Mac wrote on Jan 14, 2010 11:01 AM:

" True Blue, the ones who are generalizing are those who say that all pits are bad and should be put down. "




Confused wrote on Jan 14, 2010 10:31 AM:

" Gee, I don't see any mention of hippies or libs from any of the people commenting here so how can the labels be applied to them? Tony, you seem to be a very disturbed person who cannot deal with anyone differing from your opinion. It seems very immature. "




celia wrote on Jan 14, 2010 10:14 AM:

" True blue, I think you might be an old friend with many personalities....What on earth does speaking about facts regarding a breed of dog have to do with "liberal progressive mind"?

Again, my heart goes out to Cindy and family and I support efforts to hold owners responsible for the actions of dogs who were not properly restrained. "




True Blue wrote on Jan 13, 2010 10:33 PM:

" Gee, don't you just love the attitude and generalization of any subject that the liberal progressive mind decides to comment on. I,like you Tony, am tired of this blog always making the "hippys" or progressives look correct and learned. I guess that must reflect the intelligence and demeanor of the ones who edit. So Long, it's been "good" to know ya! "




Mac wrote on Jan 13, 2010 11:50 AM:

" JJ, many thousands of pitbulls live with families without incident. But the ones that bite are the ones you hear about most often. Many dogs are also reported as "pitbulls" when they are not. I linked to a site on the pitbull discussion thread that shows many breeds which are often mistaken for pits. Also, many pitbulls work and thrive in search and rescue, law enforcement and as therapy dogs. Don't discount an entire, wonderful breed simply because of irresponsible owners. "




JJ wrote on Jan 13, 2010 10:15 AM:

" How many times do we have to hear the story of Pit Bulls. "We,ve had it since our child was born and it loves our child we have no idea why it (Pit Bull)just ripped our child's face off." We hear this story over and over how can someone, anyone, be so ignorant to saw Pitt Bulls are for the most part human friendly or other animal friendly? You just never know when a Pitt is going to turn not if a Pitt is gonna turn, it's usually only a matter of time. "




lori wrote on Jan 13, 2010 10:10 AM:

" we have a vacation home up in havilah. I am always disturbed to hear about pits attacking anything. that said, we have three pits. they are secured in our backyard with a hot wire along the fence to ensure they don't get out. when we are up in your area, they are in a kennel.

ours are sweet dogs, but i would never let them roam and when people visit they go outside in their kennel. I couldn not live with myself if they hurt something. "




Da Da wrote on Jan 13, 2010 9:31 AM:

" I think that the animal control was cold hearted, wasn't doing their job and needs to get fired. I can't believe they didn't not come out and help you. If they are not there for us in need then they should just shut it down and we will take care of our own animal situations however fit "




Da Da wrote on Jan 13, 2010 9:28 AM:

" First of all we need to get ahold of 23 news and have them investagate the Animal Control officer in charge at that time. Just like last time when those 50 something dogs attacked the minature pony. Animal control did nothing until 23 news investagated the story. They will find out who the animal control employee was. Cindy, I'm sorry your babies died, like they said they are in heaven running, and you need to do something about the owners of the pitts. Get a lawyer and maybe these people will think next time they get a pitt bull. "




Cheri Horgan wrote on Jan 13, 2010 5:23 AM:

" I think some of you are missing the point here...it isn't the breed that was untimately the problem, but the irresponsible owners that just opened the door and let their dogs run freely, rather than take them out of a leash when they had to go out. It was late, cold, and they(like the animal control officer), were too lazy to accept the responsibility of their job. Humans are supposed to have developed brains and make intelligent decisions, but in this case the Humans are guiltier than the animals (who only reacted on instinct!) "




Tony wrote on Jan 13, 2010 4:33 AM:

" I'm done posting. You guys filter this board to seem like the hippys are always right I don't prescribe to such things. God Bless. "




Mac wrote on Jan 12, 2010 6:56 PM:

" Tony, to say one is ignorant is not an insult, merely a statement of fact. It only means one is uneducated about something. I have posted my arguments in the pitbull discussion thread if you wish to rebut there. "




Tiffani Ballew wrote on Jan 12, 2010 2:33 PM:

" This is a very horrible situation. I am a horse lover and a dog lover. I've seen the best and worst of both species. To say that a breed should be eliminated from existence is ignorant. Who trained these dogs? Who brought them home? Who fed them? The irresponsible owners. Prosecute them not the breed. Then sue the heck out of them. If it were my horse and foal I had been waiting almost a year for you better believe I would! "




Tony wrote on Jan 12, 2010 2:00 PM:

" Sure insult me.In a debate insults means you have no proof. Provide some instead of calling me names a 5 year old uses. "




Caring wrote on Jan 11, 2010 9:19 PM:

" Cindy, I am so sorry for your loss on Christmas Morning and my heart goes out to you. What can be said to soften your pain and sadness, except to say that you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

Tony, your ignorance is glaring. "




Tony wrote on Jan 11, 2010 9:13 AM:

" Pit bulls just like chihuahua are a trend. The difference is pit bulls can kill say a LARGE ANIMAL. Children are much easier prey. That is what this aggressive breed do, kill just to kill. Nothing more nothing less. Look at it this way they where bread just to kill. OUT LAW THEM NOW!!!! Prove me wrong!!!! "




Mac wrote on Jan 11, 2010 7:32 AM:

" Jillian, I have created a thread for those who wish to discuss pitbulls simply because I did feel this wasn't the proper forum for it. But the ignorance of the preceding statement prompted me to comment. My apologies to the OP of this thread, and one again my admiration that her personal tragedy has not turned her into, as she terms it, a "pit-hater". I only wish that others would do less headline-reading and get some real facts. "




celia wrote on Jan 11, 2010 7:07 AM:

" Jillian. If you have read and comprehended the postings from Mac you will see that she has been one of the most compassionate people with regards to Cindy and her loss of a loved one. You would also direct your dog comments to that thread.

This line is mostly to support Cindy and her family during a heartbreaking time. "




Jillian wrote on Jan 10, 2010 7:33 PM:

" Mac, you're spewing pit propaganda. Any old dog man will tell you that "human aggressive pits were culled" is a myth. If the dog made money, the dog was bred and fought. Aggression was tolerated because it brought in the big bucks. By that logic, thoroughbreds should be the tamest horses on earth since they're bred for riding and racing. Wrong. Undesirable traits are accepted when profit is on the line. How about some compassion for a woman who lost her horse and foal and less defending of the dogs that killed them. "




Mac wrote on Jan 10, 2010 3:46 PM:

" To "Put Down All Pit Bulls": From your wikipedia cut and paste you left out the part where initially these dogs were used to catch cattle and boars, for hunting and as family dogs. Some were selectively bred for fighting, and had replaced the bull terrier as the fighting dog of choice by the beginning of the 20th Century. Interestingly enough, because they were bred to fight, they were also bred to be non-human aggressive. A dog who bit humans in the pit was too dangerous for the handler and was culled. Hence, the pits generally human-friendly nature. "




Put Down ALL Pit Bulls wrote on Jan 9, 2010 8:26 PM:

" The breed IS a danger. They were CREATED to KILL. These dogs were initially bred in England, Ireland, and Scotland, and arrived in the United States with immigrants from these countries. In the United States, these dogs were selectively bred for their fighting prowess, and starting in the early 20th century, they began to replace the bull terrier as the "dog of choice" for dog fighting in the United States.

They ALL need to be rounded up and put down.

The owners of these dogs need to be charged with a FELONY. "




julie wrote on Jan 9, 2010 12:35 PM:

" This is a very unfortunate situation, but don't you think it's the owners of the pit bulls that need to be put down, not the dogs themselves?

I own and have owned many pit bulls, all of which are calm, sweet dogs, who never hurt or attacked any one or any thing. It's THE OWNERS FAULT, NOT THE DOGS! "




Mac wrote on Jan 8, 2010 10:27 AM:

" Since I think it would be more sensitive to Ms. Roberts' loss, I have submitted a pitbull discussion thread to the forum, so that we may have a more appropriate place to discuss the merits of the breed. I hope you will all join me there. "




re-Paul wrote on Jan 7, 2010 9:02 PM:

" Paul while I agree that pitbulls can be very wonderful pets, there is a valid arguement in the fact that pitbulls are one of those breeds that when they do attack its more damaging. That is why I believe that pet owners need to be held accountable for their pets. We have to ask ourselves why these dogs were running around and why they were so mean. "




Responsible Pitbull Owner wrote on Jan 7, 2010 6:38 PM:

" Cindy, sorry for your loss. Now for those of you who think that Pit Bull owners are just "irresponsible low-life's," are classifying us other Pit Bull owners as such! That is poor judgment on your part! There are many aggressive breeds out there that can be just as bad, if you put them in the wrong hands of an irresponsible pet owner! Judge the person NOT the breed! I have an 11 year old Pit Bull who is a sweetheart! She has had the love and attention she needed and required to make her into the dog she is today. "




NoPitsHere wrote on Jan 7, 2010 6:09 PM:

" Paul, the only ignorance being shown here is from you. Pits are killing people at the rate of one every 22 days according to DogsBite.org, that's not ignorance, that's facts. And once your pits search, what then, do they attack or kill? I hope never to be in a situation where I have to depend on your dogs finding me, if I wasn't dead before they find me, chances are great I will be when they do find me. Have you bothered to learn what pits were bred to do, they do it well and it ain't search and rescue. "




Jillian wrote on Jan 7, 2010 5:53 PM:

" No, Paul, what is ignorant is reading an article like this and just complaining about how people don't understand pit bulls. This woman lost a pregnant family member to a horrible dog attack, and all you can do is whine about how people hate pits. You're typical of exactly the sorts of people who own these dogs, uncaring of anyone except yourself and your own desires.

Cindy, as a fellow horse lover, my heart aches for your loss. Fight to get the law changed in your area so AC can't drop the ball again. I'm so sorry this happened. "




Paul wrote on Jan 7, 2010 11:51 AM:

" These are some of the most ignorant comments I have ever heard. I have 3 pit bulls that are search and rescue dogs, I have had pit bulls all my life. Please educate yourself about dog behavior, breeds and owner responsibility. "




Mac wrote on Jan 7, 2010 11:44 AM:

" I am very sorry to hear about your loss. I can't imagine a worse way for our beloved animals lives to end.

Unfortunately, the all-American pitbull which has been a trusted and beloved family pet for many many years in our history is now the dog of choice for irresponsible lowlifes. I am glad that you do not hold it against all pitbulls. It is not the fault of this magnificent breed, but rather that of irresponsible people. "




Whatever wrote on Jan 7, 2010 11:14 AM:

" When I was a little girl I was walking home from my bus stop in Bodfish canyon when I was attacked by German Sheperd. This dog must of bit me forty times at least, all on my legs. Animal control quaritined him and then put the dog down. My neighbor was truely sorry that it had happened. That was over twenty years ago and I'm still afraid of dogs. As sorry as I am about what happened to Cindy's horse, I'm equally greatful it wasn't a person. We have to start holding PEOPLE accountable to stop this from happening. "




Trigger wrote on Jan 7, 2010 9:37 AM:

" In 2007, just after Thanksgiving, two loose pit bulls killed Lisa Gilreath's horse named Scarlette in Hawkins County, Tennessee. Captured on video, Gilreath talks about the attack with breathtaking honesty.

Search the following phrase on Google to find the video: "Horse attacked by pit bulls in Mount Carmel"

No person, domesticated pet or animal should EVER have to suffer injury or death by the powerful jaws of a pit bull. The acute damage this breed inflicts when it bites has only been found elsewhere on victims of shark attacks.

I grieve for your great loss Cindy. "




Lisa wrote on Jan 7, 2010 5:44 AM:

" Cindy, I am horrified to hear of such an aweful attack & what they must have went through..Your mare "Scarlet" & her foal are at the Rainbow Bridge & you will see them again. This A/C officer should be fired..It was their job to be there to help you. I cannot believe they never showed..I am very sorry this happened to you & your mare..I am a horse owner & cannot imagine such a terrible tragedy.. :(
hang in there & know you have alot of support & there will be justice for Scarlett & her foal. "




MaxxRocks wrote on Jan 7, 2010 4:45 AM:

" So very sad. There is a problem with pit bulls living in family neighborhoods. Too many people and domestic animals have been killed and/or maimed by pit bulls.

Pit bull lovers should work together to find a solution. Lives are changed by pit bull attacks.

On Myspace visit maxxthreelegs and Facebook visit Pit Bull Victims.

God Bless the families and victims. "




Ann wrote on Jan 6, 2010 8:39 PM:

" Cindy, I am so saddened by your letter here and cannot fathom how I would deal with such a sad and tragic Christmas. Can you provide a name for the Animal Control flake offs? Let's get that person or persons fired pronto in this new year. Also, pit bull owners, accept responsibility for your dogs and keep them secured so that they do not harm or kill. Duh? "




Jill wrote on Jan 6, 2010 8:36 PM:

" Disgusting dog owners! Shoot the dogs, then shoot the owners.

Get a laywer, Cindy, and sue the h*ll out of the owners if you can locate them.

I pray those horrible dogs have been put down before they can kill other animals, or even children.

Cindy, I am so very sorry for your needless loss.

I own a house in Weldon, and I see dogs loose all the time.

STUPID OWNERS! "




Tom wrote on Jan 6, 2010 4:55 PM:

" My nephew's daughter 6 years old was visiting a friends home and their pit bull almost tore off her face. She lived but only by luck. She has had plastic surgery and lookks almost normal. warn your kids about visiting friends with dangerous animals. "




Frank Pinon wrote on Jan 6, 2010 1:02 PM:

" Sad Story. Every lowlife I see has a pitbull by his side. This breed should be legislated from existence. Everyone should write their representatives and demand legislation prohibbitting the breeding and ownership of pit bulls. "




Bill wrote on Jan 6, 2010 11:05 AM:

" Cindy, that is awful and that is no way for any animal to die! I am so sorry... those two babies are running free right now so take comfort in that...


People!!! keep your dogs under control because if my 2500 pound draft horse comes in contact with one of your dogs running around, it will not survive. Draft horses aren't like a nomral horse, they play soccer with dogs and kick them around like a ball.. I had a pitbull wander into my horse stall and he didn't come out alive... "




Cheri Horgan wrote on Jan 6, 2010 8:50 AM:

" I am concerned that the animal control officer could opt not to respond to a crime scene! What if fire fighters decided it was Christmas, so they didn't have to save your house, or police officers decided it was too cold outside to respond to your home invasion? This is grounds for termination! A member of this woman's family had been murdered, and the dogs were still at large...how could that officer be sure that their next victim wouldn'tbe human? If you are too lazy to do your job, give it up to someone who will. "




Cheri Horgan wrote on Jan 6, 2010 8:40 AM:

" I wish there was something I could say to ease your pain, but please accept my sympathy, as I do understand that our animals mean as much to us as our people friends, and often sometimes even more.While I love all animals, the people who allowed this to happen were accomplices to a crime...murder, and as such should have to stand accountable in some way. My heart shudders at the thought that a child might have come upon that scene and tried to have stopped it! Think what might have happened to that child! "




celia wrote on Jan 6, 2010 4:53 AM:

" Cindy my heart goes out to you and all who are affected by the loss of Scarlet. I don't know what it will take to convince irresponsible dog owners to do as you have rightfully suggested. My dog(on leash) was attacked by a dog(off leash)a couple of years ago and I later found out that the dog did have a history of aggression:after the owners told me she was "great with dogs". Some owners just don't get it and, unfortunatly, innocent dogs and people pay the price.We can just keep pressure on irresponsible owners and do our best. "